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02-08-2007, 08:24 PM
Hiya ladies,

I have been in contact with our web host hoping that we could find a resolution to the problems we have been experiencing with our website in terms resource consumption on their server. Apparently, we are not allowed to have a chatroom as chatrooms tend to cause overload on some servers. With that being said, we have two choices. Either we can scrap the chatroom altogether OR we can downgrade to a chatroom that is allowable by our host. I think there is two different ones that I can choose from.

It's your call, so let me hear your opinions. Should we downgrade or scrap the chatroom?

Erin K
02-08-2007, 08:29 PM
I voted scrap it, but I only want that if scraping it will give us enough whatever it is we don't have enough of. So it getting rid of chat will solve all our problems then I say let it go. :)

Would we keep that shouting box? we could sorta chat on that right?

02-08-2007, 08:31 PM
I love the chat room!
All the friendships and sharing that goes on in the chatroom are great! Why we have even dreamed up swaps in there. I for one would be very sad to see it gone.

02-08-2007, 08:32 PM
I haven't spent much time there at all, so I say scrap it.

02-08-2007, 08:33 PM
Do whatever you think is best. Chatting is a perk of this site, but I've lived without it for a long time anyway... Will they need to take anything else away???


02-08-2007, 08:33 PM
I havent voted yet, but what does it mean for the site?
If by getting rid of the chatroom it will provide for more stability (I havent really had a problem, but I know others have), then I say get rid of it.
If we downgrade, will that change the speed/connection/stability?
I always forget about the chatroom, so obviously if it was gone, I wouldnt notice much. But I know there are people that use it a lot and think we need their opinions too :)

lost luggage
02-08-2007, 08:37 PM
I love the chat room!
All the friendships and sharing that goes on in the chatroom are great! Why we have even dreamed up swaps in there. I for one would be very sad to see it gone.

I concur. Downgrade :rolleyes:

02-08-2007, 08:41 PM
You could downgrade. But what is the shout box all about? Could we shout it out as fast in their as the chatroom. I don't get into the chat often, but when I do, it's nice to talk to friends?

02-08-2007, 08:42 PM
I love the chat room too. What would a "downgrade" entail? Would the chat be slower? Would it keep kicking us out? Will it make the entire site slower? Of course if it's a neccessity to this site that we cut it, then so be it. As much as I love the chat room, I love being able to just log in and see what everyone is up to more.

Mary (haven't voted yet)

02-08-2007, 08:43 PM
Oh no I would be lost without the chat room. I would love to keep it if we could and just downgrade it. My vote is to downgrade!

02-08-2007, 08:56 PM
I like the chat room too, but do whatever is best for the site!


02-08-2007, 08:58 PM
I don't use it, so I'm not voting. Sherri, I trust you to do what's best for this site. You've done a great job so far. :)

02-08-2007, 09:10 PM
I love the chat room but I never go in there. I just don't have time.

Do whatever you think is best ....

02-08-2007, 09:13 PM
That's where I got to know so many.Heather

02-08-2007, 09:22 PM
I haven't used the Chat Room myself so I won't vote. Really, aren't the forums a terrific place to "chat" too?

Sherry, we all appreciate this site soooo much and trust you'll do what's best. Hugs & Smiles, Pam :)

02-08-2007, 09:27 PM
Sherry, the chat room is terrific, but I don't go in there all that much. On many occasions, I look at the bottom of the Forums page and see that no one is in the chat room. While it's a great feature and quite extraordinary to these types of message boards, I say scrap it!

02-08-2007, 10:04 PM
I'd love to be able to keep the chat room. I feel I've made real connections thru the chat room. What would downgrade mean? I'd prefer to downgrade chat and get rid of the shout box. we can pm each other with shouts.
I vote we try a downgraded chat, see how it goes, and then if it's no good we can scrap it all together- and go into withdrawals slowly:arghhhh:.
just my 2 cents

02-08-2007, 10:23 PM
I don't use it at all, not enough hours in my day. My vote is that you do whatever you think is best for the site...as you always do!

02-08-2007, 10:56 PM
I vote downgrading. I've had such great conversations in the chatroom and met some really great ladies.

02-08-2007, 11:01 PM
here's my opinion...scrap it. we can always hook up in yahoo messenger or something like that.

02-08-2007, 11:21 PM
I vote for downgrade also. I enjoy being able to chat with my friends there. We could try that first before scrapping it. If the site works fine with the downgrade then there's no problem right?

02-08-2007, 11:22 PM
I just learned how to chat in the chatroom yesterday (Wednesday) and I met Margo, Dibby and Christie -- it was a lot of fun. I hate to see it go. Would getting rid of the shoutbox make a difference? I also loved the music in the chatroom and hated to see it go. I say downgrade. If this doesn't go too well, then get rid of it :cry:


02-09-2007, 05:30 AM
Thanks for your votes and comments ladies. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to let me know what features you want to see on this website.

Let me address the shoutbox for a moment. I installed this on a trial basis for two reasons. The first was because I thought it was cool, haha. The second is because I thought it would provide a quick way for someone to say hello to a friend who just logged on. It was never meant to be a chat room or a replacement for the chat room.

In regards to the chat room, we can always give the downgraded version a try and see how it goes and how it works before we totally scrap it? If it is total crap, then we'll give it a big ol' hug and send it on it's way. The only thing is, the chat room will not be integrated with our website like it is now (ie, you will have to register your username and type it out with your password every time you log on). And, you will not be able to "see" who is chatting online via the "What's Going On" section at the bottom of the forums page. That nifty little feature went along with our current chat room.

I am willing to try anything if it means that the website is more stable and you guys don't keep getting the royal boot. I may be taking some features away but I also hope to add some cool new features too. I may even temporarily suspend the shoutbox to see if that makes a difference. If NOTHING changes in terms of server load, I will put everything, including the chatroom, back and we'll find a host that can accommodate our needs.

02-09-2007, 07:21 AM
Sherry I'm so sorry you are having so many problems. I know that this is hard to keep up with. I think that if you are paying for thier service that they should be able to accommodate at any means. That's just my opinion. I was going to recommend that we downgrade and then if that doesn't work then scrap it. I think that the server should do what it takes to make this site work right, that is what they are getting paid for. I just don't understand how they can say it's our problem.Sorry for the outburst! :swoon: Thanks for being to kind and asking our opinion on things and thanks for all of your hard work you put in here.

02-09-2007, 09:28 AM
I hope we will still have a chat capability!

02-09-2007, 09:54 AM
I did not get a chance to vote before the poll closed but I love the chat room and would be very sad if it went away. I'm fine with removing the music. I'm fine with downgrading but pleassseee don't get rid of it!!!


lost luggage
02-09-2007, 11:26 AM
Sherry- the chat room is taking up to much of the server...but if we get rid of it, it may not relieve all of the problems. (I get hiccups when leaving messages sometimes-little delays..) Why don't you tell everyone what we need to keep things A+ and upgrade the host? I am sure we can come up with the money... right everyone?

02-09-2007, 12:49 PM
Julie, we're on the same wavelength here! There are 750 users, if everyone gave $1... ;)

02-09-2007, 01:05 PM
Sherry- the chat room is taking up to much of the server...but if we get rid of it, it may not relieve all of the problems. (I get hiccups when leaving messages sometimes-little delays..) Why don't you tell everyone what we need to keep things A+ and upgrade the host? I am sure we can come up with the money... right everyone?

Julie -

You're absolutely right, getting rid of the chatroom may not alleviate our problems at all. I was chatting with our webhost and asked them if there was any specific file or application that was causing the sever overload. Their response was that they could not pinpoint an exact file or application but they did know it was centered around the forum. Umm, okay. That answer doesn't help me one bit as our entire website (gallery, swap board, and chatroom) is centered around and integrated with the forum. Sooo, I'm thinking to myself "Now What"? The only answer I came up with was to start deleting applications to see if I can pin down the source. There is NO way I'm giving up the gallery or swap board so I decided to start with the shout box and chatroom to see if this makes any difference at all. These are both things that we can really live without if we have to.

I'm really touched that you guys would want to offer monetary assistance but, honestly, I don't feel right asking for or taking your money. :cute:

I'm waiting to hear back from the webhost. I sent them all of the particulars on the chatroom to see if they might be able to test it and see if it is indeed the problem. I highly doubt it is though. Do we really have that many users logged into the chatroom at one time? The most I think I have ever seen was 10. Surely to goodness that wouldn't bog down the server so badly that it caused our website to be suspended, would it?? On a positive note though, the webhost does seem very willing to help us out. I really, really hope we can find the source of the lags, boots, hiccups, and errors that we've all been receiving. Short of finding a new host, the only other option I see is to get a dedicated server meaning that we are the only website on the server. Unfortunately, this is quite costly at $100 US per month.

02-09-2007, 01:17 PM
I don't use the chatroom often. If the downgrade is done, does that mean that you couldn't add more to the site itself because of resource usage? I vote scrap it.


02-09-2007, 05:02 PM
I belong to a private msn group and i built a lot of actual close relationships with the other moderators of the group in the chat room ( which was open to all the members but seemed like mostly the managers tried to use it)

msn did away with all their chats on the "groups"
so, what we did was we all got something called MSN LIVE MESSENGER it was a free download/upgrade thing and when you feel chatty if you have those people you enjoy chatting with on your buddy list you can see if they are online and talk that way. so if its a regular scheduled "chat" ( the group i am talking about had a set chat time on Saturday afternoons evenings depending on your time zone) once two people on the list start chatting they can "invite" other people on the list into it, so its more fun then a standard chat room (moves just as fast) but more smilies and things to play with.

just another option of what could be done if you do have to let the chat room go.
(I'm not voting i don't know anyone here really well enough to chat with them yet so... i have not walked into that room)

02-09-2007, 07:12 PM
:cool: I'm just a brand new member, but I would be more than happy to kick in a few bucks to help out with the move to a dedicated server...if that is what is decided. I just discovered this forum and am slowly wading through all that it has to offer. I would hate to see it become less than what I experience now. Just my .02 worth :twitcy: