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Far North
02-22-2007, 11:09 AM
How do you color an image on vellum? I did a polish stone background but had trouble with painting the image (http://stamp-shack.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=3856&cat=500). Please share your experience.
Thanks a bunch...Jan

inkinupstamps
02-22-2007, 11:16 AM
Good question, Jan. And now I'm wondering what exactly is vellum made of? If it has any type of gelatinus base to it, perhaps using a water brush is causing a bit of disolving to take place?? I'm guessing outloud as I don't know for sure, but it would seem like the water is doing something to cause the vellum to shrink. Anyone know what vellum is made of?

Your card is gorgeous, nonetheless! Very lovely!

Jennifer

moon_beam23
02-22-2007, 11:26 AM
I read your post and was intrigued so I did a little investigating! Here is what I came up with:


Originally, vellum referred to a translucent white writing surface made by the Hebrews before 1000 BCE (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-ad-bc-bce-and-ce-in-identifying-historical-dates.htm). It was prepared from untanned calfskin by drying it under tension after it was cleaned, dehaired, and scraped. After it was stretched, it was polished with pumice (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-uses-of-pumice.htm) - an abrasive - and talc - a filler - as a final preparation for writing. In the Middle Ages, illuminated manuscripts were prepared on vellum, as were other documents.
Later, vellum was prepared from the skins of stillborn animals. Sometimes, goatskin or sheepskin was used to make parchment referred to as vellum. The names parchment and vellum are sometimes used interchangeably. Besides being used for writing, vellum, or parchment, was used to make drumheads and lampshades (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-different-types-of-lampshades.htm).
In the late 19th century, a paper product with properties similar to vellum was created by treating and embossing wood pulp and/or cotton (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-cotton.htm) fiber. Called vellum paper, imitation vellum, vegetable vellum, or Japanese vellum, this paper is thick, ivory colored, and semi-translucent, with a low gloss.

Hope this provides some insight!


Renée:spinny:

teabear
02-22-2007, 11:28 AM
Good info Renee! I was just about to go look it up, too. I don't know the answer, Jan. I'm wondering if it's just the thin properties of vellum....like when you get a tissue wet.

Far North
02-22-2007, 01:06 PM
Thanks Renee!...that is helpful info. I used the thinest vellum I had so that it would be the most transparent but I think I am going to go back and pull samples of different kinds of vellum and run some tests with the aquabrush to see if the papers are made of different fibers are may respond in different ways.

I'll keep you posting...and please continue to add any new thoughts.
...Jan

flyingflower
02-22-2007, 01:10 PM
When I made some cards with twinkling H2O & vellum I found out it wrinkled. I worked that into the overall design because the texture really helped the piece pop.

When I colored this (http://stamp-shack.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=3525&ppuser=37) one in, I did it with prismacolor pencils on the back of the vellum.

HeatherHolbrook
02-22-2007, 03:59 PM
Yeah what we call vellum is actually not traditional vellum:)
I've painted on vellum with various mediums before and found the thicker vellum doesn't warp or curl as badly but if you are coloring from behind for it to show through to the front sometimes the thicker vellum doesn't show the color as well (catch 22:)) After painting I always let mine air dry to the touch and then put it in the pages of a heavy book to flatten it out.
HTH

mcourtney
02-22-2007, 04:13 PM
I've found that vellum will warp, buckle, wrinkle and will not lay flat if I use water or any liquid for that matter. When it does dry, I find it to be stiff and brittle. I usually use my Tombows with vellum being careful not overcolor in one spot. The only thing I've found that is close to vellum and you can do just about anything you want to it and use anything on it is "Sheer Heaven". It's about as translucent as medium to heavy vellum.

Far North
02-22-2007, 04:48 PM
Well the good news is the vellum did pretty good with the Alcohol Inks. I really appreciate the additional comments. I can't wait to do some more trials!
...Jan

Whoopsie Daisy!
02-22-2007, 05:08 PM
I tried dropping alcohol inks on acetate and putting vellum over it.
I think with a little blending solution, it might work.
It didn't warp or buckle on me.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l185/whoopsie_daisy/vellum-and-acetate.jpghttp://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l185/whoopsie_daisy/vellum-and-acetate-3.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l185/whoopsie_daisy/vellum-and-acetate-4.jpg
The vellum is on the left side and the acetate is on the right.

I'll have to go back and play around with this... maybe try painting the alcohol ink on the paper. Maybe lighter colors might be better. lol!

teabear
02-22-2007, 06:23 PM
Ooohhhh Jane...I love your experiment. I have a package of really old typewriter paper--remember the kind that you could almost see through. It says it is onion skin paper..looks like a relic of the 60s or 70s. I'll give it a whirl and report back.

Whoopsie Daisy!
02-22-2007, 08:10 PM
Ooohhhh Jane...I love your experiment. I have a package of really old typewriter paper--remember the kind that you could almost see through. It says it is onion skin paper..looks like a relic of the 60s or 70s. I'll give it a whirl and report back.

Can't wait to see what you come up with, Tami!
I'm gonna be trying this out again later after we get the boys in bed.
This is so much fun! Thanks, Jan!

Far North
02-22-2007, 10:50 PM
Show me, show me how your experiments turned out!

Tami I remember onion skin--now thats moves you up several notches of being a great saver! When is show and tell?

...Jan

HeatherHolbrook
02-23-2007, 09:53 AM
If you add the blending solution your colors will lighten up.
btw Alcohol inks don't warp much because they are not waterbased like paint, etc:)

scrapsoon
03-12-2007, 07:00 PM
Hi,
Don't know if you need it anymore.
But i used for that kind of vellum special paint.
We called it in Holland Pergomano.
There is Pergomano paint,Pergomano pencils and Pergomano crayons.
You have a euh..smooth/soft side??and a side that is euh..not.
On the side it is not so smooth/soft you paint or colour with the pencils or crayons.
And if you turned it around you can see that it is all soften.
Pff...hope you know what i'm trying to explain.

Far North
03-12-2007, 07:56 PM
Scrapsoon~thank you for adding your experience! I was not aware of the difference of the front and back of the vellum....thanks so much for sharing!
...Jan

scrapsoon
03-14-2007, 04:18 AM
your welcome,
By the way an embossingpen you can also use on that vellum.
As an example you have an ball or somethings round you can use your embossingpen to make it embossed.
You do that on the backside,the other side will be almost satincoloured.
And you have also 3d.

Canadian, eh
03-14-2007, 06:46 AM
I just read a tutorial on a blog I frequent. If I knew how to link it to this post I would. This is what it said: Heat emboss, carefully, a stamped image of your choice. Turn the image over and colour it with markers (avoid watercolours because the paper will buckle and warp). The image shows up beautifully from the front.

scrapsoon
03-14-2007, 08:33 AM
can you copy the url??
than paste it in yor message here.
but also a great tip.